harlzen ([info]harlzen) wrote,
@ 2006-08-25 22:11:00
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Current mood: bitchy
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Snakes, Planes... and much biting ensues.
Just got back from Dinner and a movie. The dinner was surprisingly good, the Herdsman Lake Tavern looks like one of those immense barns of a place that rely on cheap food and no competition. In practice though the food was fast and not bad at all, although they do seem to have a tendency to want to deep fry everything. Of course the dinner was made much more pleasant with good company.... oh yeah, and beer.

Not much could save the movie though... the audience was silent and focused on the movie. I think they were waiting for Samuel L. Jackson to say his one memorable line. Meanwhile the movie was entirely focused on snakes biting people. There was a plot, or at least some sort of thin layer to tie the gaps together, but basically if the idea of watching people getting bitten to death by snakes doesn't amuse you then you've got no real reason to see this trash. It's certainly not much of a horror or suspense flick since everything is set up so obviously that you know what is going to happen way in advance. And the characterisation, blah, even outside of those existing only to be snake-food they were almost entirely superfluous, with virtually nothing they did actually meaning anything or making any difference. It may want to be a cult movie, but it just isn't smart enough to be anything more than a passing fad.

I swear the problem is that the American movie industry has a "quota" of movies they have to produce that's actually higher than the stories they have to tell... which is why even the shallowest joke, seemingly the product of an extended and boozy lunch, gets extended into a motion picture. I guess the same thing happens in anime, but I still believe that manga (and the bizarre people who occupy that culture) give them a much richer field to tap.



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[info]plarp
2006-08-25 04:37 pm UTC (link)
have there been any original and entertaining stories told in film in the last say, five years?

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[info]harlzen
2006-08-27 02:06 am UTC (link)

of course...

The trick is in defining original. Asking that a movie is totally and entirely constructed of thoughts and images that have never been seen before is a very high demand. And of course its more or less impossible as long as the film is not made by someone completely insane or alien. Saying that a film can be called original, and entertaining, if it contributes something... a new blend, a new take, a new flavor then just about any movie that has a true artistic vision will add something.

Some movies add a lot less though, such as ones where everything is based on a single simple idea and the direction is mostly interested in filling in the airtime.

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[info]tribalist
2006-08-26 02:15 pm UTC (link)
i think this film is better understood/critiqued as a sociocultural phenomenon than as a standalone work needing to answer to issues of 'characterization' and 'plot' and so on, which it was never meant to be (at least, not for the past year or so). "Snakes on a Plane" is on every level about giving people exactly what they've been expecting for a year, and the very joy/humor/resonance of its title has derived from people expecting to get what they'd expect from it. (this more than resembles how anime and manga are able to resonate with their respective audiences.) the one-dimensionality of the film is a play on the one-dimensionality of that title, which happens to be the only reason people started caring in the first place.

as for lacking any kind of rich subtext, well, the movie's underlying appeal obviously draws from post-911 paranoia about terrorism, flying, and the combination thereof (hence Snakes + Plane), rather than in a need to see yet more gore or sex or what have you. at least in America, the public gets to go out and face its underlying fears and come out unscathed. as such, it's really the feel-good movie of the summer, rather than yet another cynical ploy to maximize revenue--the public was in on it long before the film was close to being finished, and that public (plus Samuel L. Jackson) has been the primary force shaping this film into its final form. within those parameters, i'm genuinely surprised that the film still manages to shock and entertain. it's completely over-the-top!

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100% hype free.
[info]harlzen
2006-08-27 02:18 am UTC (link)

I'm willing to go along with that. If you see it as an internet "meme" of which the movie is more a conclusion than something totally independant it works. It's then like an attempt to see just how many snakes, and bites, and claustrophobia, you can fit in the time allowed.... It's a celebration of excess.

I missed the whole build up (I generally only watch anime, so I don't bother following live movies) so I guess I got to clearly see just how thin the film is. I'm not sure I really accept the subtext you propose, I think it was more about the fact that snakes wouldn't be that threatening a foe unless you put them in an enclosed and restricted environment.

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Re: 100% hype free.
[info]tribalist
2006-08-27 04:26 am UTC (link)
i chose to ignore most of the build-up too, and hadn't intended on actually buying into it until being convinced at the last minute -- and it seemed rather obvious that the film would be rather thin when viewed in a more conventional context -- but i liked it nonetheless. you really don't think a disaster film set inside an airborne plane has resonance in the current global atmosphere? i didn't mean to suggest that the film was explicitly meant to tap into current events, but surely its setting and premise hearken more to 9-11 than to the ecology of snakes....

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(Anonymous)
2006-09-01 12:59 am UTC (link)
What's really sad is that the SoaP discussion has had more fruitful conversation than any of your recent anime reviews.

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[info]akirakaneda
2006-09-01 12:59 am UTC (link)
What's really sad is that the SoaP discussion has had more fruitful conversation than any of your recent anime reviews.

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2007-01-31 06:07 am UTC (link)
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